mikechap · Aug 16, 2005, 12:17 AM // 00:17

anyone know if it is possible without a vampiric axe?

Warlawk · Aug 16, 2005, 12:20 AM // 00:20

yeah, ive done it without a vamp axe, it just requires careful timing.

mikechap · Aug 16, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32

please expound on the neccesary skills. i know there are other threads but they all require vampiric axes.

kleps · Aug 16, 2005, 12:52 AM // 00:52

here's what i used:

collector's axe (+15% while in stance) and shield (+45hp, -2dmg while in stance)

mending
live vicariously
vigorous spirit
cyclone axe
gladiator's defense
bonetti's

mikechap · Aug 16, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27

thx a bunch ill try that out.

Experiment_Jon · Aug 16, 2005, 01:30 AM // 01:30

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=28880

there...ultimate griffon farm thread. I loved the video...

Red Sonya · Aug 16, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20

New build for griffon/mino/troll farming much more efficient for W/Mo:

Balthazar's spirit
Balthazar's Aura
Shield of Judgement
Vigorous Spirit
Healing Breeze (I rarely use this now)
Cyclone Axe (not even max dmg or max % dmg, 6-27 +12% w/enchanted +5 armor pommel of defense) customized +20%
Bonetti's Defense
Living Vicarously

I use a "gladiator armor build of 26 Energy and a cheap focus item from Eastern Fronteir +6 Energy (get 1/2 of this) +5 Armor (w/enchanted) +45 Health (w/enchanted) for (3) fetid carapaces.

I like Balthazar's Spirit because it generates energy PLUS adrinilin on each hit the player takes. Bonettis Defense comes up quite often and thus more energy gain quicker and more Balthazar's Aura's and Cyclone Axes to unleash.

Total Energy is 29, after the two enchantements becomes 19, start off with Vigorous spirit upon rush into attack, after first hit turn on Shield of Judgement, then cyclone axe till bonettis comes up, on 2nd bonettis defense should have over 25 energy, turn on Baltazar's Aura, then back to vigorous spirit, cyclone axe and bonettis defense. When down to last Griffon, don't kill it till you get your 29 energy back full. Then kill it and proceed to next griffon. I even creamed the named Griffon and 3 other griffons with this build. Using healing breeze with this build is a rarity now, Shield of Judgement is pretty awesome keeping the griffons down early on and I usually get to use it and Balthazar's Aura twice (if I want to) sometimes they go down so fast I don't want to kill that last one too quickly so I get the max energy back (29) before the battle is over.

Took this build to Talus Chute (just outside of Droknars) ran to Troll caves, took on the 10+ Trolls in middle of cave, was a smear and once again rarely used Healing breeze. Shield of Judgement rules.

Balthazar's Aura and Cyclone Axe rules too.

My attributes and I don't even have max 200 (working on attribute quests now)

Healing 8
Smite 6
Strength 11 (using minor strength rune)
Axe 11 (using minor axe rune)
Tactics 3 (using minor tactics rune)

Edit note: I'm only using Major Vigor and Major Absorption also. Gauntlets are Knights gauntlets, Wyvern Helm for the strength, rest is gladiator.

MeatWad · Aug 20, 2005, 04:03 AM // 04:03

mending
vigorous spirit

help me plz · Aug 23, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34

the gryfens in snake dance rite

vvh · Sep 12, 2005, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Cylone axe+ bonetti's combo is old griffon farming method. The new one that I'm using is pretty stress free even in the sight of rocket shot devourer. Now that bonetti's and cyclone axe no longer trigger zealot's fire. My build surely beats the cyclone axe+bonetti's combo.

Mistress Nocturnal · Sep 12, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27

i never used a vamp axe btw just a furious and longer enchantment one np with that

Akhilleus · Sep 12, 2005, 07:06 AM // 07:06

heres my build, and though i dont farm, i do experiment with builds. so far half the members of my guild uses this method to farm dragons/trolls and i dont recall anyone ever dying using this build:

cyclone axe, bonettis defense, gladiators defense, balthazars spirit, balthazars aura, healing breeze, live vicariously, symbol of wrath.

where its important (stats):
you only need to meet the bare minimum req on your weapon, just towards you can do some damage with it. a lengthen enchantment pommel is nice, but not mandatory, and unless you forget to keep using healing breeze, not even needed.
mainly keep your tactics as high as possible (literally max it) then the min req for your weapon and remaining points over smiting/healing prayers, with smiting taking the preference.

equips, not much is important except a tactics base sheild, a low req %dmg-enchanted axe, and gladiators armor

basically the idea is get surrounded by as many as possible aggro as many dragons as you can, without going below 60% on damage or so, to give yourself some time to get some bearing once you stop and get surrounded like new meat in a prison barracks.
anyway, the moment you step outside of augury, use vicariously and spirit on yourself, balth spirit will feed you energy and adrenaline, when thier hits bypass your stances

now, basically you use gladiators defense every chance you get, and when gladiators is recharging, you use bonettis, and heres how i do it:
i run in, get surrounded, use gladiators defense immiditaly, then i use healing hands, then cyclone axe, which will instantly power bonettis defense, then use symbol of wrath. when gladiators defense runs out use bonettis.
instantly, max mana; immidialty use balthazars AURA, 25/27 mana, and because you have balthazars spirit, in that 1 seccond of getting hit, you will have enough mana to use cyzlone axe, which you use, then you use bonettis immidiatly after. by this time gladiators defense should be ready again and youll be fully powered on mana. use gladiators defense, then healing breeze again, followed by cyzlone axe to power bonettis for once glads is down, and followed by another symbol of wrath, another bonettis and another balthazars aura.
repeat.
the entire above paragraph, when rehearsed, takes place give or take, a litte over the amount of time it takes healing breeze to run out twice (w/ 20% pommel, 12 secconds), so about 30-35 secconds.
so in 35 secconds time you have pretty much killed a good portion of the group, and have probably not gone under 70% of your life; after about 1 more rotation of the above sequence there shouldnt be many of them left.

rinse&repeat.
the one difference between my build and the one provided, is the use of symbol of wrath gladiators defense, which with high tactics, does very nice damage for about the same time period of balthazars aura. its basically a balthazars aura that does more damage, costs less mana, but only does damage if they miss you (and they usually do) and symbol, while it only lasts 5 secconds, does good dmg as well.

Aug 16, 2005, 12:17 AM // 00:17	#1
mikechap Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: in bankrupcy Profession: N/Me	Question on Griffin Farming anyone know if it is possible without a vampiric axe?

Aug 16, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20	#7
Red Sonya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005	New build for griffon/mino/troll farming much more efficient for W/Mo: Balthazar's spirit Balthazar's Aura Shield of Judgement Vigorous Spirit Healing Breeze (I rarely use this now) Cyclone Axe (not even max dmg or max % dmg, 6-27 +12% w/enchanted +5 armor pommel of defense) customized +20% Bonetti's Defense Living Vicarously I use a "gladiator armor build of 26 Energy and a cheap focus item from Eastern Fronteir +6 Energy (get 1/2 of this) +5 Armor (w/enchanted) +45 Health (w/enchanted) for (3) fetid carapaces. I like Balthazar's Spirit because it generates energy PLUS adrinilin on each hit the player takes. Bonettis Defense comes up quite often and thus more energy gain quicker and more Balthazar's Aura's and Cyclone Axes to unleash. Total Energy is 29, after the two enchantements becomes 19, start off with Vigorous spirit upon rush into attack, after first hit turn on Shield of Judgement, then cyclone axe till bonettis comes up, on 2nd bonettis defense should have over 25 energy, turn on Baltazar's Aura, then back to vigorous spirit, cyclone axe and bonettis defense. When down to last Griffon, don't kill it till you get your 29 energy back full. Then kill it and proceed to next griffon. I even creamed the named Griffon and 3 other griffons with this build. Using healing breeze with this build is a rarity now, Shield of Judgement is pretty awesome keeping the griffons down early on and I usually get to use it and Balthazar's Aura twice (if I want to) sometimes they go down so fast I don't want to kill that last one too quickly so I get the max energy back (29) before the battle is over. Took this build to Talus Chute (just outside of Droknars) ran to Troll caves, took on the 10+ Trolls in middle of cave, was a smear and once again rarely used Healing breeze. Shield of Judgement rules. Balthazar's Aura and Cyclone Axe rules too. My attributes and I don't even have max 200 (working on attribute quests now) Healing 8 Smite 6 Strength 11 (using minor strength rune) Axe 11 (using minor axe rune) Tactics 3 (using minor tactics rune) Edit note: I'm only using Major Vigor and Major Absorption also. Gauntlets are Knights gauntlets, Wyvern Helm for the strength, rest is gladiator. Last edited by Red Sonya; Aug 16, 2005 at 03:24 AM // 03:24..

Aug 16, 2005, 12:20 AM // 00:20	#2
Warlawk Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/Mo	yeah, ive done it without a vamp axe, it just requires careful timing.

Aug 16, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32	#3
mikechap Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: in bankrupcy Profession: N/Me	please expound on the neccesary skills. i know there are other threads but they all require vampiric axes.

Aug 16, 2005, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#4
kleps Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/Mo	here's what i used: collector's axe (+15% while in stance) and shield (+45hp, -2dmg while in stance) mending live vicariously vigorous spirit cyclone axe gladiator's defense bonetti's

Aug 16, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27	#5
mikechap Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: in bankrupcy Profession: N/Me	thx a bunch ill try that out.

Aug 16, 2005, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#6
Experiment_Jon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Band Geeks Profession: W/Mo	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=28880 there...ultimate griffon farm thread. I loved the video...

Aug 20, 2005, 04:03 AM // 04:03	#8
MeatWad Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005	mending vigorous spirit

Aug 23, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34	#9
help me plz Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005	the gryfens in snake dance rite

Sep 12, 2005, 01:23 AM // 01:23	#10
vvh Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005	Cylone axe+ bonetti's combo is old griffon farming method. The new one that I'm using is pretty stress free even in the sight of rocket shot devourer. Now that bonetti's and cyclone axe no longer trigger zealot's fire. My build surely beats the cyclone axe+bonetti's combo.

Sep 12, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27	#11
Mistress Nocturnal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: N/Mo	i never used a vamp axe btw just a furious and longer enchantment one np with that

Sep 12, 2005, 07:06 AM // 07:06	#12
Akhilleus Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'. Guild: Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark] Profession: W/Mo	heres my build, and though i dont farm, i do experiment with builds. so far half the members of my guild uses this method to farm dragons/trolls and i dont recall anyone ever dying using this build: cyclone axe, bonettis defense, gladiators defense, balthazars spirit, balthazars aura, healing breeze, live vicariously, symbol of wrath. where its important (stats): you only need to meet the bare minimum req on your weapon, just towards you can do some damage with it. a lengthen enchantment pommel is nice, but not mandatory, and unless you forget to keep using healing breeze, not even needed. mainly keep your tactics as high as possible (literally max it) then the min req for your weapon and remaining points over smiting/healing prayers, with smiting taking the preference. equips, not much is important except a tactics base sheild, a low req %dmg-enchanted axe, and gladiators armor basically the idea is get surrounded by as many as possible aggro as many dragons as you can, without going below 60% on damage or so, to give yourself some time to get some bearing once you stop and get surrounded like new meat in a prison barracks. anyway, the moment you step outside of augury, use vicariously and spirit on yourself, balth spirit will feed you energy and adrenaline, when thier hits bypass your stances now, basically you use gladiators defense every chance you get, and when gladiators is recharging, you use bonettis, and heres how i do it: i run in, get surrounded, use gladiators defense immiditaly, then i use healing hands, then cyclone axe, which will instantly power bonettis defense, then use symbol of wrath. when gladiators defense runs out use bonettis. instantly, max mana; immidialty use balthazars AURA, 25/27 mana, and because you have balthazars spirit, in that 1 seccond of getting hit, you will have enough mana to use cyzlone axe, which you use, then you use bonettis immidiatly after. by this time gladiators defense should be ready again and youll be fully powered on mana. use gladiators defense, then healing breeze again, followed by cyzlone axe to power bonettis for once glads is down, and followed by another symbol of wrath, another bonettis and another balthazars aura. repeat. the entire above paragraph, when rehearsed, takes place give or take, a litte over the amount of time it takes healing breeze to run out twice (w/ 20% pommel, 12 secconds), so about 30-35 secconds. so in 35 secconds time you have pretty much killed a good portion of the group, and have probably not gone under 70% of your life; after about 1 more rotation of the above sequence there shouldnt be many of them left. rinse&repeat. the one difference between my build and the one provided, is the use of symbol of wrath gladiators defense, which with high tactics, does very nice damage for about the same time period of balthazars aura. its basically a balthazars aura that does more damage, costs less mana, but only does damage if they miss you (and they usually do) and symbol, while it only lasts 5 secconds, does good dmg as well.